September 12, 2005

key attached to giant wooden spoon

9/12/05

I'm suffering through some kind of chronic-fatigue virus that is making all my muscles ache and encasing my brain in a shield of lead, so you'll have to excuse the plagiarism of today's entry, BUT... my brother Sean's rant from a few days ago was so goddamn brilliant that I feel it needs to be reprinted here:

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"Wipe Hands on Pants" by Sean Williams

About ten years ago, I was coming out of a rest-stop bathroom and I asked my brother Ian if he could tell me what someone had written on the bathroom hand-dryer, in lieu of the actual instructions. Even though he hadn't been in there yet, he knew what it said. It used to be that instructions were needed on the hand-dryer in bathrooms, but now, apparently, there's just a picture of someone pressing the button and two hands rubbing together.

(As an aside - these hand dryers (which don't work) don't really need instructions any more because people have basically gotten the hang of them. But for some reason, we still need directions on shampoo? I gotta assume that, unless you've been following Phish since you were in diapers, everyone, even in third world countries, can figure out how to wash their hair. I mean, seriously, if you live in the most desperate circumstances possible, don't you think that learning how to wash your own hair would come months and years before learning the English required to follow the instructions on the back of a shampoo bottle?)

Anyway, there were instructions on the hand dryer that said this.

1. Push button
2. Rub hands under warm air.
3. Turns off automatically.

And almost always, I mean in about 90% of cases, the dryer instructions were altered with a knife or a pen or whatever so that they read.

1. Push butt
2. Rub hands under armhair
3. Turns off automatically
4. Wipe Hands On Pants.

Someone went to every single bathroom in America and took the time to write in the fourth step. Because, frankly, you do have to wipe your hands on your pants. The same pants you wiped your hands on after you coughed last. After you sneezed last. The same pant legs that caught steaming molecules of your last meal. That's where you wipe your damn hands when the air dryer doesn't work.

But that's not my point.

See there are things that people say that they think are funny. A dog will lick its balls, and someone will say "If I could do that, I'd never leave the house". Someone will say "what do they call 100 (fill-in-the-hated-profession-here) at the bottom of a river? - A GOOD START!"

It's boring as hell. GOD it's boring. You people should be fucking ashamed of yourselves.

You know that guy on the train? The guy that woke up just long enough to locate his bottle of cheap liquor and drank from it before passing out again? That guy who just peed on his own clothes? That guy is serving a purpose. Those of you who repeat a joke that someone else told, you are the worst people in the world. The absolute lowest.

But wait, there's more.

Because it isn't just repeating a joke. It's repeating the same fucking idea. Y'all who have lines to pick up girls? Especially lines you've tried before, and they've worked? Y'all should go fucking kill yourselves. The years are ticking away, jackass, the years are running down the drain and you are gonna path-of-least-resistance your way right down to the day you die. You're gonna have kids with one of these dumb ass mental cripples that falls for your line and you guys will have fights that don't make any sense and your kids are gonna grow up and try the same lines you tried and they'll work and some other fucking idiot is gonna procreate and the world is just gonna spin down to dust while NOT A SINGLE ORIGINAL THOUGHT COMES OUT OF YOUR FUCKING HEAD.

But wait one second. That's not my point. This is.

For you fucking idiots who have found a way to jam your heads up your asses about Bush's total failure as our President this last week, purely because you feel like you need to constantly return to the idea that those on the left are ALWAYS wrong and those on the right are ALWAYS right, you're done.

Months of us taking off our shoes at the airport, and all a terrorist had to do was blow a hole in a levee in New Orleans. They could drive an SUV full of fertilizer and fuel oil to the levee, and thousands would have died. But they didn't. We had years of warning, everyone knew the levees would break, and no-one did anything. The Republicans didn't, the Democrats didn't, America is a teaming mess of classism and racism, and these things need to be dealt with on a Federal level.

You can support President Bush after this, of course. This was a monumental mistake, but, provided you believe the rest of what he does makes up for this catastrophe, I don't mind you supporting the President. But if you tell me that the federal government isn't to blame for this...

You're just writing what you've read someone else write. You don't know anything. You are too stupid for me to listen to, and, especially your idiotic blog comments... I mean, you're no better than the wall in some truck stop bathroom, and twice as full of shit.

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Posted by Ian Williams at September 12, 2005 10:55 PM
Comments
Posted by: Reader at September 13, 2005 12:50 AM

>>all a terrorist had to do was blow a hole in a levee in New Orleans. They could drive an SUV full of fertilizer and fuel oil to the levee, and thousands would have died.

SCARY. And true.

Good post.

On another note, I've never ever seen those instructions in the rest room. Maybe it's only men who don't have original thoughts?

Hillary '08

Posted by: lyle at September 13, 2005 1:16 AM

go, sean! (you gotta like the appropriately original wind-up for this pitch.)

Posted by: Kevin from Philadelphia at September 13, 2005 6:24 AM

Good stuff! Very funny AND original. I may become a regular reader.

Posted by: Andy at September 13, 2005 7:07 AM

Sean - one thing you forgot to mention is that many of the bathrooms that have replaced written instructions with the picutres have also been defiled. For the picture that shows a hand with the index finger pushing the button, someone has drawn a crude butt in the picture so that it looks like the finger is being ... well... you know ... inserted.

I think that might be even worse than changing the written instructions.

And thanks for blogging on this. This problem has bugged me for years.

Posted by: josie at September 13, 2005 7:15 AM

Sorry, Sean. No supporter of our Admin here, but you sound like a classist jackass yourself. Making personal attacks on others' intelligence does nothing for your credibility.

Posted by: cm at September 13, 2005 7:47 AM

Last I checked, josie, lack of originality is no indicator of class. That you would assume it so is, frankly, pretty classist.

Posted by: Joe at September 13, 2005 8:09 AM

I think Josie meant to say that Sean is a *classic*.

The jackass part was probably just a left-handed way of expressing her admiration for his frank takedown of the ad hominem sieg heil chorus in the echo chamber, if I may mix all the metpahors in my meagre arsenal.

Posted by: Sean Williams at September 13, 2005 9:03 AM

Y'all should know that, despite Ian's multiple homes and lack of a day job, we come from a long line of white trash. My great grandfather built barns all throughout the south, my grandfather worked in a lumber mill, my dad and mom went to public colleges (after my mom graduated from Pasadena Community College) and our Aunt painted her piano white to match her porcelain figurines. Yes, Ian has gout, but that doesn't make our family upper class.

How about this. If you think a post about a lack of originality is an indication of classism... you might be a redneck!

Posted by: Josie at September 13, 2005 9:26 AM

Sean: I am sure you're a personable, witty, intelligent man, along with being a talented playwright and connoisseur of the arts.

But based upon this entry where you tell people to GO KILL THEMSELVES because they've repeated a joke that's fifty years old, or because as a teenager they scrawled on the hand dryer in the john -- and well, let's not stop there -- then you go ahead and suggest that their **kids** will grow up to be morons because of this...well, it's hard to see why I would want to meet you.

You start making your point after you say "But wait one second. That's not my point. This is." And it's a REALLY good point. I mean really good. The rest of that stuff was just not necessary. I don't see towing the current political line as a "lack of originality;" I only see it as stubborn people trying desperately to validate their existing views. Your lead in was a complete non-sequitur to me. And it was mean to boot.

I admit it was foolish of me to post a diss on Ian's bro here on the family blog. My apologies on calling you a jackass.

Posted by: Chris M at September 13, 2005 9:35 AM

The federal government isn't to blame for this (crouching with arms covering my head).

Posted by: badbob (real) at September 13, 2005 9:37 AM

Reading bathroom walls for what? To discover deep symbolic metaphors or to find phone numbers..

Obviously, I'm too stupid to talk to..

re - "But if you tell me that the federal government isn't to blame for this...'

I'll re-tell you- no government (fed/local/state) is responsible for a hurricane and neither is George Bush. However, many are responsible for:

a- the defective levees- (insert any LA politician here since Huey Long)

b- the NOPD falling apart (black police chief comes to mind)

c- Not following the NO emergency response plan, buses, buses, buses (the Black mayor)

d- Not making timely decisions- the Governor

e- Not being pro-acive and decisive as Director of FEMA- Michael Brown

The president IS taking heat and rightfully so but why should I and the head coach of the Tarheels (also a Republican-LOL) have to hear this hysterical carping?

Lastly. What fucking idea did you propose in your entertaining metaphor-full rant?

B2

Posted by: josie at September 13, 2005 9:38 AM

And to adress the 'classist' part: I personally find intellectual classism more offensive than economic classism, Not everyone can have your gifts, nor the opportunity to cultivate them. Their opinions may not be as coloful or reasoned, but they are heart felt, even if you think they're faulty.

Posted by: Roy at September 13, 2005 9:58 AM

Hey, I searched for more references to the hand dryer thing and found this: http://www.vgg.com/ee/ee_121100_handdryer.html

That'll save some time!

Posted by: craighill at September 13, 2005 10:08 AM

blaming bush for the handling of katrina must be your original thought because if it weren't, and had been written somewhere before, you'd be no better than the truck stop authors, right?

Posted by: oliver at September 13, 2005 10:11 AM

I think there's a non-ridiculous position in there somewhere.

Posted by: J.Boogie at September 13, 2005 10:21 AM

wow, now Ian is trying to somehow equate bathroom instructions with a hurricane

I think tomorrow Ian will try to somehow blame the Los Angeles power outage on Bush, or maybe Rove, or maybe he will blame both of them.

You will always notice that Ian always goes out of his way to not mention the governor or mayor, we must cover our eyes and never blame the Democrats in local power there, like a good little DNC/NPR sheeple.

Posted by: lee at September 13, 2005 10:39 AM

that wasn't ian, dummy.

Posted by: Laurie from Manly Dorm at September 13, 2005 11:16 AM

Hmmm. I am not sure what to think of today's entry. I agreed with Josie -- it was all kind of mean-spirited. And I think I was just insulted!

I live my life according to the path of least resistance! If I didn't, I wouldn't get up to go to work each day, I would probably fight with my husband all the time, and I would probably go postal on the Baltimore Beltway one day. What's wrong with the path of least resistance? Huh?

And, why is the person who tells the same joke someone else said the lowest person in the world? I can think of a lot of worst things. Pedophiles come to mind,just to start.

And, why are you calling your family white trash? I don't think they'd appreciate it.

One more thing -- I want to have multiple homes and no discernible day job!!!! I think that I would be able to devote ALL of my time to CREATIVE, ORIGINAL thinking if that was my reality! And, I would not have to follow the path of least resistance! There'd be no obnoxious boss, no financial stress, nothing to prevent me from being the me I was meant to be! Ha!

Posted by: Laurie from Manly Dorm at September 13, 2005 11:20 AM

And LOOK! Moments ago, President Bush just admitted that it was all his fault! Katrina and the dead people and the lost pets! He must have read your blog!!

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/13/katrina.impact/index.html

Posted by: Kevin from Philadelphia at September 13, 2005 11:22 AM

J. Boogie not only inserts unoriginal "sheeple" criticism and broad-brush insult to liberals, but is also apparently incapable of discerning that Ian's blog today was "guest-written" by his brother Sean. Thank you J, for proving that you are both un-original AND possibly a functional illiterate. Idiot.

Posted by: Sean Williams at September 13, 2005 11:29 AM

My God, to be offended by intellectual classism... I mean, I don't even know where to start.

Intellectual classism. Holy Crap, that is hilarious.

Also, the post is mean because mean stuff is funny.

Intellectual classism. Man oh man. The defies description. That's fantastic. Can I use that from now on? I'm not a classist, I'm an *intellectual* classist. Jesus, that is priceless.

Dude, Ian, how do you deal with this?

Oh, and thanks for all the info Badbob! You've totally changed my mind! It never occured to me that so many black people make so many mistakes! I've *never heard that before*!

Moron

Posted by: caveman at September 13, 2005 12:27 PM

Sean's entries are the best, you get all the cynicism and simmering disgust you love without getting bogged down with sensibility, humility or purpose.

Rage at the machine indeed!


Posted by: Josie at September 13, 2005 12:42 PM

Sean: Although I'd like to take the credit, I can't say I coined the concept of/term "intellectual classism." Google it.

Posted by: david at September 13, 2005 12:44 PM

That was entertaining Sean. You sandbagged us with the thesis statement buried deep in the butt]on of the rant.

“and these things need to be dealt with on a Federal level.”

I think that thesis is flawed. Extend your blow dryer metaphor; Dealing with this at the federal level, in fact dealing with many things that Democrats ant to “fix” at the federal level (healthcare, and transportation issues excluded) is rather much like “wiping your hands on your pants.”

If the democrats and the republicans, and the governors, and the mayors, and the citizens for many generations lived with the warnings of the levees and did not move why should this be handled at the federal level Sean.
That same federal level is in charge of the airport security that confiscated my son’s school scissors from his pencil box on the way to wedding this past weekend in Oregon. Thankfully my son didn’t need them to complete his weekend homework., he had just forgotten they were even in his school backpack.
But, most importantly I trust the Federal government less and less and less. I think in order to fix it at the federal level we need to emphasize our states rights again. Federal fixing is what has been attempted with the marriage amendment, and numerous other bills that should frankly just be determined based on the community in which you live and choose to conduct your business.

The US is a big country there is room for everyone. If you want to pay for sex legally go to Nevada. If you want to marry someone of the same sex, there are many states where that is looked well upon. If you want to hide yourself behind a ranch fence in a compound off the grid, there are places you can do that. And if you want to live below sea level, in a cramped concrete box in Manhattan, in a city that is known for earthquakes, for Lyme disease bearing ticks, or in the Smog of LA for whatever cultural reasons you have; then you have the rights to do so. But, as per Ian’s previous post, take advantage of the knowledge to bail oneself out if the need should arise. The coast guard will arrive, but if their arrival is at an inconvenient time for you don’t go crying because you exercised your liberty to play offshore. Be thankful you have such liberties.

I just got word last night a friend in NYC who only two weeks ago won the right to buy his families farm in NJ will be hosting Katrina survivors. The battle over the will for the farm has taken him three years, and has split his family apart. His business has suffered, and his nerves, and financially he’s now millions in debt. But, he has the farm, and he is able to be a good Samaritan with it. I think that kind of custodial care of all that is within our power is some of the best things we can do. My kids were thrilled to hear that boxes of toys they had left in the basement from when we used to visit will now be some of the first possession of kids who were displaced by the storm.

Posted by: Chris M at September 13, 2005 1:26 PM

david--

you nailed it. thank you.

Posted by: Matt at September 13, 2005 1:39 PM

I'm starting to feel sorry for you guys. I really am. That much hate and arrogance must be unbearable when combined with political impotence.

Posted by: Chris M at September 13, 2005 1:47 PM

"...the post is mean because mean stuff is funny."

Well, *your* mean stuff is funny.
Other people's mean stuff only shows they're stupid or not human.


Posted by: Kevin from Philadelphia at September 13, 2005 2:14 PM

"That much hate and arrogance must be unbearable when combined with political impotence." - Well, beter political impotence than ACTUAL impotence.

Posted by: Sean Williams at September 13, 2005 2:16 PM

You know what you guys should do? Seriously, you should write a book.

A book about knowledge.

If only there was a book that had all of this knowledge in it, it would be so helpful. I'm excited about the idea of learning knowledge, of having knowledge served up to me. It's so hard having to look to the comments section of Ian's blog to find what I need.

Thank God I'm stuck in rehearsal with internet access, or I wouldn't have time to read and respond infinitely with the same banal crap over and over again. I really appreciate the smarts y'all's laying down.

Posted by: Matt at September 13, 2005 2:56 PM

"For you fucking idiots who have found a way to jam your heads up your asses ... You don't know anything. You are too stupid for me to listen to, and, especially your idiotic blog comments... I mean, you're no better than the wall in some truck stop bathroom, and twice as full of shit."

No one lays the smarts down better than that!

Posted by: Ian at September 13, 2005 3:10 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Williams. He'll be here all week with smooth, smooth jazz.

Remember to tip your waitress!

Posted by: badbob (real) at September 13, 2005 4:54 PM

re- "Thank God"

Holy shit! He believes in God. What about that Ian? He must be banished to the deep red zone of Kansas, eh?

re- "I'm stuck in rehearsal with internet access,"

In rehearsal eh? While us stupid unartistic fucks go about our business making money, taking care of our families and screwing with the certified moonbats on this blog....

re- "the same banal crap over and over again."

It ain't banal it's 'rant'ingly entertaining!

Now answer my questions:
- Why are you reading bathroom walls?
- What idea did you propose in your entertaining metaphor-full rant?

re "You don't know anything."

No, teeheee, you don't know nuttin. (one seventh grader to another).

B2

Posted by: david at September 13, 2005 4:59 PM

If there was a book would you really read it?

I think most people would not. They’d rather as you suggest persist in hanging onto third rate information at best. It’s easier to swallow what one likes, and easier to dismiss what one doesn’t that way.

Seriously, persisting in wiping hands on pants, or even pushing that button to start the dryer is ridiculous — Everyone knows you need a paper towel to open the door anyway. One shouldn’t have to read that here.

Posted by: Frequent Reader at September 13, 2005 5:05 PM

"I'm starting to feel sorry for you guys. I really am. That much hate and arrogance must be unbearable when combined with political impotence."

Now I know why I've been wanting new clothes and a Cadillac. Because if you want to *be* impotent...

Sorry, Sean.

Thanks for a great little flamewar, everybody!

Posted by: david at September 13, 2005 5:14 PM

If there was a book would you really read it?

I think most people would not. They’d rather as you suggest persist in hanging onto third rate information at best. It’s easier to swallow what one likes, and easier to dismiss what one doesn’t that way.

For example:

Reading the content of the book vs. third rate information based on the content of the nursery rhymes and holiday songs
The men from the east bearing gifts were wise. Not kings. Kings is from the song. “We three kings of Orient, are bearing gifts...”
Not “any child” nor are they gifts you’d want any child such as “Lucy” to receive. Two were meant for embalming. One is meant for kingship.
The swaddling clothes are burial clothes. Who who wrap their baby in burial clothes? This child came as a sacrifice, was born to die, and to unite all creation with heaven again in his death. The clothes were a specific sign for the wise men.
Who were the wise men from the east? It can be reasoned that they were astrologers from Babylon, where Daniel had once been in service amongst the other eunuchs in the school of astrology and had saved some from a death sentence. Perhaps some then converted to his faith and waited in expectation of a messiah. Read the book of Daniel.
Read Ezekiel. The “star” does not act like a star, one reason so many people either dismiss it or look for pseudo scientific explanations to explain it; either to uphold it or to dismiss it. But, it does resemble the chariot and glory that Ezekiel saw enter the temple, and that had departed from the temple.

That said, yes, one does see hope and love in every child born. One does see the power of life and salvation in the act of giving birth. It is amazing that from globs of sperm, semen and eggs cells life takes shape and eventually arrives. It is symbolic and real that everyone of us has entered life in this way. And it is painfully sad that so many are ignored who are no different in their origin than us. This is just one reason in caring for the poor that that one who was special, says to us that we by doing so care for him.

“Stuck in rehearsal” B2 — Look Sean is playing a bit of the suffering artist, or just victim here. “stuck” as I imagine he chose to be there. And I might have called him on that, however... But, don’t dismiss creative work as not being harder than whatever “un-artistic” “business” you go about doing. That’s just flaming. I’m constantly reminded of boring me too dot com ideas that were so kiss ass pleased to get four million dollars of venture capital that they proceeded to then blow out their asses — compared to the hard work that the “creatives” behind south park did which earned over $40M in merchandise sales alone. We need more laughs. It’s proven to be healthy. But, do we really need yet one more “same as that one” software widget?

Posted by: oliver at September 13, 2005 5:18 PM

What "intellectual classism" refers to is hard for me to understand--my massive, gleaming PhD from a top tier university notwithstanding--but I think the person who invoked it here was just saying it's not polite to call people stupid for disagreeing with you. A lot of them are big and own guns, for one, and then there's the inevitable fact that a lot of the people who agree with you are either stupid or stupidly agreeing too. Anyway, nobody thinks hard and critically about even one percent of what life and the universe presents us. If some red-neck is working on Fermat's last theorem, I forgive them for not taking the time to rexamine their party affiliation. One vote isn't all that important.

Posted by: david at September 13, 2005 5:29 PM

We all know that Bush is out in 2008.

To belabor his muddling, is akin to beating a dead horse that has been dead since November 2004. It’s frankly tiring and a bit like a Tom Green comedy routine.

On this one point regarding the value of repetition I disagree with John Cage. This is no longer interesting, and continuing in the action will make it no more interesting. Thankfully, he agreed what he speaks of music would not apply to mushroom gathering, so I doubt it is meant to apply to political dialogue either. Let’s start talking about something new. Three years might be just enough of a start.

Posted by: Laurie from Manly Dorm at September 13, 2005 5:33 PM

All of this banter is making my head pound. I think that I have become stricken by the same chronic-fatigue virus as Ian.

Posted by: Beth at September 13, 2005 6:10 PM

Right, and it's raising my blood pressure. Although I have to confess I really enjoyed the specificity of mushroom gathering and school scissors in the pencil box and boxes of toys in the basement. That was well done, David. And sweet.

Posted by: Ian at September 13, 2005 7:29 PM

Yeah. The comments section has kinda devolved of late, huh.

Posted by: david at September 13, 2005 8:11 PM

A Paul Moment http://www.paulmoment.com/index.php?p=114#more-114
Helen Keller said “Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature… Life is either a daring adventure, or it is nothing.”

Posted by: Matt at September 13, 2005 8:28 PM

"The comments section has kinda devolved of late, huh."

Yes it has. There's a lot of name-calling going on: "rednecks," "stupid," "idiots," "fucking idiots," "morons". . . and that's just from Sean!

Posted by: CL at September 13, 2005 8:43 PM

Ian & LFMD - I don't actually think the comments section has devolved...I learn a lot from hearing differing opinions, even if it means little flame wars start here and there. There are some geniunely interesting viewpoints sandwiched between. And fhe flame wars here are a step above other blogs. Not one misspelled word or grammar error in the lot of 'em! Where else can you find THAT on the net?

Posted by: david at September 13, 2005 10:24 PM

And folks understand words like devolved.
Are we not men? — Mark Mothersbaugh

Posted by: KTS at September 13, 2005 10:25 PM

Nice move, Ian. And Sean, keep Ranting the Good Rant!

It’s funny how some of the rightwing posters to this blog, especially in the last couple of weeks, the ones who have been throwing shit like deranged monkeys at all us lefty socialist commie traitors - including mind-boggling stupid attacks personally against Ian - are suddenly offended when Sean throws some shit back at them and hits them square in the face. While trying to wipe it off, they are suddenly offended by rude language and hateful speech. Clean as a whistle, they wish to appear as the Voice of Reason, and would prefer to change the discussion to a more pleasant topic. In other words, they don’t want to be the targets themselves. Not when shit’s being thrown, at them.

Well, what I say, is too fucking bad! That’s what I say, mates!

Posted by: Matt at September 13, 2005 10:30 PM

I know you're not referring to me, KTS.

Posted by: CL at September 13, 2005 10:48 PM

>>And folks understand words like devolved.
Are we not men? — Mark Mothersbaugh

Now the conversation has Devo...lved.

Posted by: Lisa in Maui at September 14, 2005 12:27 AM

I can NOT believe how much spiteful venom is being spewed in this blog.

I read this blog because I truly enjoy Ian's take on things. Read "opinion". It's his blog, remember?
I'd like to think that as rational adults that seem reasonably intelligent, that we'd be able to rise above name calling and cheap shots. It's one thing to call W or Rove an idiot, they are on a public stage that they voluntarily signed up for. To call someone here in the blog an idiot, stupid, asshole, *insert derogatory comment here* for their opinion is ridiculous. Turn it around. How do you feel?
Does it feel nice to have your opinion shot down with a nonsensical playground-style push to the ground?
Does it fix anything that's happened if we have someone to blame?
We still have to fix things regardless of whose fault it is. Is it going to bring the people of New Orleans back their city if I call BadBob(real) a dumbass ? Nope! It might be temporarily entertaining and make me feel momentarily superior for a fleeting second if I really cared about it, but badbob is not affecting my life. I could give a shit what he thinks. But he's surely free to think it.
Not so long ago, people were killed en masse for voicing opinions.

Why have things gone downhill in America?

Lack of respect. Across the board.

It's not about race. Not at this point in our history.
It's about a level of self importance that permeates all levels of race, social standing and all the other politically correct "classifications" of our society. What happened to basic human decency? What happened to the idea that we treat people as we would reasonably expect to be treated.
It's what we expect of the relief workers rescuing the victims of Katrina. It's what we should reasonably expect from our fellow earth dwellers under considerably less traumatic scenarios.

Sheesh people. It's like high school debate. Base your arguments on facts not emotions. C'mon.

I vote for filtered comments to those who can have adult discourse only.
Or no comments so that the name caller's can stew in their own anger juices.

Mahalo,
lisa

Posted by: Laurie from Manly Dorm at September 14, 2005 5:14 AM

CL -- you are good at putting a positive spin on things. I like that!

And Lisa is right. Enough insults.

Man, I miss Hawaii.

Posted by: oliver at September 14, 2005 6:29 AM

Let me add my own polyanna spin: Everybody knows that the most flammable ingredient of the Internet is that you don't know, can't see and can't hear the person supposedly talking to you. We've grown to know Ian and know how to read between his lines, but those few of us here who don't share a parent with him don't know Sean. I think people's reasons for saying stupid things most often are benign or not interesting on a national political or even WWW level.

Posted by: david at September 15, 2005 2:26 PM

Perhaps it is in the nature of bathroom wall comments to be aggressive?

Scribbled on the Bathroom Wall

TO: Every
one Who
wrote on
the
door...

Get a
Life & Stop
vandalizing
other's property!!


DUMMIES

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