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Can someone tell me how "Patch Adams" happened? In Chapel Hill, arguably the most beautiful college town in America, we've had exactly ONE motion picture filmed on campus in the last thirty years (discounting a couple exterior shots in "Kiss the Girls") and it was frickin' "Patch Adams".
I look at "Patch Adams" the way I look at terrifically ugly office buildings: at some point, the architect rolled the plans out on the table, and three other guys said "YES! That's IT!" And then they built it. And then we looked at it for seventy-five years.
When Robin Williams takes the nasal aspirator bulb and puts it on his nose... you know, to be a "clown"... entire swaths of North Carolina history were rendered irrelevant. Forget Andy Griffith, forget James K. Polk, forget Michael Jordan - hell, forget Caleb Bradham, inventor of that vile drink Pepsi. In one moment, it kinda all ceased to matter.
What movie moment made you die a little?
Posted by Ian Williams at October 24, 2007 10:28 PM
Anything movie where Robin Williams stars is usually a death march through one very twisted man's ego. Even worse, watching his 'comedy.' His shtick was funny once, in 1978, but he wore out his welcome with me a long time ago.
Worst Robin Williams moment? Oh, there are so many to choose from! But Patch Adams is most definitely up there.
I've not seen his movie "Jacob the Liar," but I can't imagine it as anything other than horrible. When I looked on IMDB I found a comment on that movie that I think was meant sincerely, but for me says something about Robin Williams:
"If you are interested in the holocaust, and want to be entertained at the same time, Jakob the Liar is your film."
Which dorms were the characters living in in "Patch Adams?" None of the rooms I lived in were that spacious. Was it Old East? Old West?
The "Exorcist" made me die a little, because it scared the hell out of me. And, being Catholic, I kind of believe in all that stuff, which made it scarier.
My daughter has been an avid movie-goer since the age of 2, and we have enjoyed many films together. However, the ones which really made me die, in the sense that I was wishing that the movie reel would just self-destruct were: Garfield the Movie and The Country Bears. Pure torture.
I am not a sci-fi person and maybe that is why I disliked Dune so much. I don't remember the movie much at all. I just remember in 1984 going to the theater with my friend. We had snuck a flask into the theater and sat on the front row and tried to enjoy the movie. Even the excitement of that couldn't do anything to make the movie good gto me.
Prete a Porte was so bad and maybe that is because I expect so much from Robert Altman.
The Witches of Eastwick - How can you not love Jack Nicholson, but even he can't redeem this movie. the cherry vomiting scene - ugh!
Natual Born Killers - why?
Pirates of the Caribbean - Dead Man's Chest. I love watching Johnny Depp so much that I was a regular 21 Jump Street fan. That being said, I couldn't wait until this movie was over. The only reason I watched the whole thing was because I was visiting my sister and the room I was sleeping in was where we were watching the movie. My brother-in-law felt the need to watch the whole thing.
The Trials of Daryl Hunt- Everyone in America should see this film. I have to admit that while it was happening I was convinced Daryl Hunt was a guilty man. I remembered when it happened and the lynch mob that gathered to burn Daryl Hunt at the stake. Everyone in my home town believed he did it sans a small group that sensed something wasn't right. We were all wrong.
The picture it paints of Winston-Salem is not pretty. After seeing this movie, I finally admitted to myself that racism is very real- in my hometown! The film highlights the marginal police work and general antipathy towards a man who, without years of support from his friends and family, would be rotting in jail right now. Please see this film.
A River Runs Through It- I thought the beauty of MacClean was lost in this very marginal picture. Worse, it created the monster we know as Brad Pitt and drove an explosion in popularity of fly fishing. The machine it created pumps out much better equipment- but gone are the days when you could be alone with your thoughts and seemingly out of reach from the world.
ERASERHEAD almost killed all movies for me. I actually had to watch it twice and write a final exam on it for my RTVMP 26 class my freshman year at Carolina. Since then, I can't stand anything with David Lynch's name on it. It's just weird stuff for weird's sake.
The only movies I ever walked out of, however, were THE BURBS with Tom Hanks and LAST ACTION HERO. But I wanted to walk out of TO DIE FOR with Nicole Kidman.
Jody's comment made me laugh out loud and spill coffee on my sleeve. I agree with her (unless Jody is a him, then I agree with him).
I actually enjoyed Patch Adams and I love the scenes like the one in Mr. Holland's Opus. But I'm a schmaltzy wuss like that.
Please tell me you don't think Andy Griffith is high art.
I think a more telling survey would be for folks to name their TOP three movies.
I'd be curious to see what the artsy fartsy folks who eschew popular movies think, just for shits and giggles.
I can watch the following movies any time, whenever I catch them on television or peruse my DVD collection:
1. The Usual Suspects
2. The Shawshank Redemption
3. Shakespeare in Love
4. A Few Good Men
5. Four Weddings and a Funeral
BTW, if you liked Shakespeare in Love, check out this short film called, "George Lucas in love"--it's hilarious:
Anything w/ Whoopi Goldberg and/or Kevin Costner (don't buy the headset for these.)
The movie "The Abyss". Well named. Bad weather, Soviets AND aliens? So ridiculous, you gotta laugh.
And, "American Beauty". It tries so hard to be deep w/ the tortured teenboy, that plastic bag blowing around and then the homophobic, closeted gay sergeant dad as antagonist. Ugh. Just give me a dumb comedy if you have to, anything but this.
For me it was Borat. Like most films, I didn't get to see it in the theater and was looking forward to it. Just recently got it from Netflix.
It was not funny. It was rude, juvenile and stupid.
The jokes were either about Jews, women, gays or retarded people or just about male nudity. Why is that funny in even an ironic, hip sense? I thought at least it would have something interesting to say about Americans since it was supposed to be filming unsuspecting folks who thought he was a real reporter. First, you'd have to question the intelligence of anyone who didn't think twice about whether this guy might be putting you on a bit. But even if you believe that premise, I didn't even find he exposed anything we didn't already know. People in the South still fly the confederate flag, people who attend rodeos support Bush and the war, drunk frat boys talk shit about women, stuffy southern aristocrats get offended when you hand them a bag of your own poop. Shock! If people were surprised by this stuff they really need to get out a little more and visit some red states.
This movie should rank right up there with Jackass and Girls Gone Wild as ridiculous juvenile film stunts. It surely didn't deserve a Golden Globe!
"Meet the Feebles". I've scoured my brain with steel wool for a decade now and I still can't get the moth-eaten muppet porn out of my head.
Even that one was better than the abomination of the Jane's Addiction necrophilia movie "The Gift". Sometimes the "arty" cinema is like a box of chocolates: You never know when you'll bite into one that some psycho tampered with and laced with tabasco and dog mess.
Among the mass marketed movies, I have to go with "The Avengers" and "Freddy Got Fingered". Tom Green spinning a fetus by its umbilical cord and thinking he's imitating Monty Python was the single movie moment ever where I heard actual wails of anguish as we stampeded for the exits.
Oh, and "The Grudge". Most pointless horror movie ever, and that's saying something.
Dang. Adam Sandler and the Farrelly Brothers don't even make my bottom five. I'm surprised.
pretty much all of garden state. groan.
-- all that jazz
-- 48 hrs
more top 3:
-- kentucky fried movie
-- married to the mob
-- do the right thing
-- the madness of king george
-- sling blade
-- the p.t. anderson film about 70's porn that keeps getting my comment denied for for questionable fucking content!
-- safe men
-- city of god
-- happy endings
also, I'd argue that on some level, freddy got fingered is a dadaist masterpiece.
Forrest Gump...I walked out when Jenny got AIDS or more accurately when Forrest said "Jenny's got some virus and the doctor's don't know what it is".....what a terrible, terrible movie... I know I am in the minority...and I like Tom Hanks....loved Apollo 13 and liked SPR
The Cook, the Thief, The lover or whatever by Peter Greenaway (sp?).....horrible...the person I saw it with disagreed and we really haven't talked much since
As for a River Runs Through It, at least the movie got me to read the book, which is one of the best written books I have ever read.... a native Montanan and U. Chicago English professor who specialized in Shakespeare and the Romantic poets writing a late life valedictory (sp?)....unbelievably well written....some of the best prose ever put on the printed page.
Meet the Feebles is the best thing Peter Jackson ever did. If only he had the money he had for Bored of the Rings.
I like Four Weddings and a Funeral as well, except that Andie Macdowell is so bad that it is hard to believe that Hugh Grant would have picked her over the Kristin Scott Thomas
My dad was in "Patch Adams," briefly, with no lines, as one of the visiting gynecologists reacting to the giant legs that Patch put up around the door of a UNC building (Murphey Hall?). He's on the far right at 2:50 in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py8QRneBM_Q), if you're interested -- I'm pretty sure that's his own suit he's wearing. He died a few months later, after years of secretly wanting to be a professional actor. I'm glad he got to do what little he did... but, man, couldn't it have been ANY other movie besides "Patch Adams"?
What bugs me about most Robin Williams movies in which he plays the Holy Fool is that he sets up a binary universe in which your two choices are to find his antics excruciatingly funny or to be branded a bad person, dead inside, incapable of joy. Nowhere does he allow for the possibility that you just might not think he's amusing. It's sort of the same problem I have with clowns in general.
Dad got to talk to him a little on the set, though. Apparently, he's an OK guy.
Ooh, ooh, ooh! I also hated The Cook, the Thief, The Lover. I think I saw it on the heels of Eraserhead and realized I just wasn't smart enough to appreciate "high art" in cinema.
Ditto for Vanilla Sky and Love Liza. I thought the latter might be good because I like Seymour Hoffman (am I the only one who thinks he reminds me of Ian). But it was awful.
Neva, I also fail to see the "genius" of Kubrick's "Orange".
Emma, the end of Ready to Wear was pretty good, wouldn't you say?
Neva - I just deleted Borat from my queue. Good thing, too. It had worked its way up all the way to number 4.
Chip - Agreed on two points. I really enjoyed 4 Weddings and a Funeral up until that last awful scene where Andi McDowell acts soooo badly and says something to the effect - "Oh, is it raining? I hadn't noticed!"
A River Runs Through It - you really have to admit the scenery is beautiful and no, I'm not talking about Brad Pitt. I just love Montana. Very good book.
Greg - no, the ending of Ready to Wear was not good. There is nothing good about Ready to Wear!!! BTW, Congrats re: KK (I hope nobody confuses KK with Coach K).
"Meet the Feebles" billed itself as a sick and twisted muppet movie, but in reality it was a porn movie with puppets. Poorly made puppets at that.
If the puppets had vomited and excreted brightly colored goo instead of real-looking messes, it might have been funny.
If the sex scenes had been over the top, with bells and horns in the background and gymnastics unique to anthropomorphic creatures, instead of replicating the grunting and mechanics of the real thing, it might have worked.
I don't think movies with raunchy, realistic, nothing-hidden fellatio scenes are funny, and replacing the people with moth-eaten, dirty puppets is no better.
It's beyond me how someone could like the Feebles and not like The Cook the Thief and the others. I hated them both, mostly for the same reasons, but at least the latter one made some attempt to have a wide epic sweep and a fully developed theme.
I died when the latest trio of Star Wars films came out. It has been many many years since the original Star Wars and I have some appreciation for what is "good" and "bad" in films. Although my brain has told me that the original Star Wars is not fabulous, my heart clings to my childhood's impression that it was awesome. When Movie #4 (I know it is technically Chapter One) arrived, I vomited a little bit in my mouth. The only, and I mean ONLY, redeeming scene in the entire second trio of movies is at the very end of Movie #6 (Chapter 3) when Ian McGregor bemoans to Darth Vader that "you were supposed to be the Chosen One." That marked the first time Ian McGregor had shown any emotion in any performance since Trainspotting.
On the heels of various folks critiquing A River Runs Through It: Can we also slam that other Brad Pitt movie with him, Anthony Hopkins, Aidan Quinn. I have not forgotten the movie's name. It was supposed to be so picturesque and wonderful, etc. It was bad.
Rocky Horror Picture Show -- I don't care how many times one of the cool people insisted that I go along with the group to the Varsity. It stil sucks.
Harlem Nights. Coming off of Coming to America, everyone expected another movie that was filled with classic quotes and lines. Sucked. How could a film with Redd Foxx, Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy suck so bad!
Rather than list the appaling films I've had the misfortune to have wasted my time, I'll go with the original theme of this post, which is films shot in a town you hold dear, for better or worse.
I had the wonderful summer job of being a paid extra in the teen classic "Lucas", which was shot in my hometown--Glen Ellyn, IL--primarily at my high school. Say what you will about "Lucas", I can proudly say I was 'in' it (in the final frame freeze, no less) and it sparked my interest in filmmaking. Plus I got to have lunch with Winona Ryder.
The nadir goes to Iowa City, my college 'hometown' which can lay claim to one of the worst films ever shot there: "Zadar, Cow From Hell", what a rotten piece of dreck that was. Sadly, last time I ate at the Hamburg Inn No. 2, they still had a sign up indicating part of it waa shot there. However, the television show "Coach" shot all of the bumper/establishing shots in Iowa City and I was in those as an extra too but it doesn't make up for Zadar.
Ditto for "American Beauty." I thought I was the only person who felt that way.
Such scintillating, atypical dialogue! The bitchy girl responding to an observation with a single-word answer: "Vomit." The sullen teenage daughter saying, "I need a father who's a role model, not some horny geek-boy who's gonna spray his shorts whenever I bring a girlfriend home from school...What a lame-o."
And the theme--the suburbs suck! They're full of people pretending to be different than they really are! Groundbreaking.
I hated Spaceballs.
Lara - I was not at all objective about any project Rick Springfield was involved in at that juncture in my life , so I'm sure I didn't have anything bad to say about "Hard to Hold" at the time. I'm sure it was terrible, though.
And I loved "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover." When I think about this movie, I always have this sense memory of how lush the colors were and the striking cinematography. I know it was gross, too -- but I was way into odd films at the time. (RTVMP major, too.)
"Bringing Down the House" was the worst thing I have seen to date. And I would have walked out, but it was the first movie I saw at The Grove in L.A. and I paid $11.00, which I thought was extortion, so I sat there and took it. Plus, the seats were way comfortable. In fact, I would rank my two childhood idols as, frankly, rank in the movies: Robin Williams and Steve Martin. I will gladly except "Roxanne", "L.A. Story", "The Jerk" and "The World According to Garp" (admittedly, I do have soft spots for "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid" and "Popeye").
Top Three (no order):
The Lives of Others
Kill Bill Vol.1 was one of the first movies I saw on the big screen after becoming a dad. On a night out with my non-dad friends, and I'd looked forward to the new movie and getting out of the house. I had the sensation, unexpected, of being not-entertained by the Tarentino stuff. Just couldn't appreciate it, and realized I wasn't the same as my buddies anymore. So, in that moment I became aware of having died, or maybe grown up, just a little.
Blair Witch part 2 was FOUL.
Hey, I'm driving from Cape Cod to SC tomorrow; does anyone have route suggestions for getting through/around NYC on a Friday afternoon? I spent a delightful 3-4 hours on or near the George Washington bridge on the way up, and I don't need to repeat that, southbound.
see, i tend to love the crazy weird stuff, and even though i wouldn't say i *liked* eraserhead, back in the day i was totally fascinated when the screen went black and i thought my tv was broken and it made you keep trying to figure out what little creature in the drawer was.
but in the alternative movie space i just cannot get into hal hartley movies, which is really frustrating because my husband loves them. ugh, i just cannot take it, i'm like, just let me read the book so i can get it over with.
also, what was that jim jarmusch one where you have to fast forward through like 3 months of him sitting in his truck to get to the blow job? ghost dog 10 stars, guy sitting in truck -20 stars.
wyatt -- If you haven't left already, I'd recommend the tappan zee bridge (from 95, take 287 just after you enter new york state). Then take the Garden State Parkway. Depending on where you're going in SC, you may want to consider taking I-78 to I-81 to I-77 (best way to Charlotte/Columbia, etc) or the NJ Turnpike (for destinations closer to I-95).
I'm probably too late, but if not, I hope that helps....
1) Worst movie I've seen in years is Borat. For a hundred reasons, but mostly the idea that he's somehow exposing America for what it actually is, instead of just editing out any humanity and including the most revolting aspects of the stupidest 5% of us. It's a massively socially destructive piece of film, especially to leftist who already don't understand the mindset of those on the right.
2) Meet The Feebles, as a parody, is brilliant.
3) I believe Hamburg 2 burned down shortly after I left U of I in '92.
4) CHRIS! I was sitting next to you when you walked out on Forrest Gump! You forgot the best part - you not only walked out, but you called a technical foul on the movie before getting up and leaving. You actually said, "FOUL!" and T'ed up the screen, then got up and marched out. It was awesome.
Ah, another Favorite Chip Story! Thank you, fellow godparent, for your inimitable ways.
xuXe--THANK YOU--for I too cannot STAND Hal Hartley--to the point of nausea--it's the goulash of conspicuous overeducation, Vanity-Fair-inspired urbaneness, and pedophilic fetishizing of Bambi-girls with cute whispery voices that just makes me want to HURL, HURL, HURL my guts out--aaaahhhhhhhh---nonononono
However, I am a huge fan of Jim Jarmusch, though I have happily missed one with the truck scene--my favorite is, still, "Down By Law." For me, the perfect movie.
Aforementioned kind of good documentary is, for me, a masterpiece of modern cinema: "Sherman's March." I've watched it at least 10 times.
The segments in Chapel Hill are PRICELESS--oh my god--suffice it to say the ostensible premise of the movie is the filmmaker retracing Sherman's March through the South, but just before he's about to fly down to Charlotte and begin the shoot, his girlfriend dumps him and he ends up following around one single woman after another througout the film, occasionally referring to Sherman in solioquy.