March 30, 2009

microscopic is tinier than miniscule

3/30/09

Maybe other great minds have already answered this question, but I'm looking for something specific: the perfect synonym. I should go a little further and say I'm looking for the perfect adjective synonym, since you can always say words like "car" and "automobile" are synonyms, but there are always infinitesimal differences of meaning between, say, "hot", "scalding", "boiling", "stifling", and "blistering".

For instance, in ascending order of intensity, I'd proffer the following list for "big":

huge
immense
gigantic
humongous
massive
titanic
gargantuan
astronomical
galactic

So I put to you, fair readers, what descriptive word in English can be perfectly replaced by another word, with absolutely no alteration of meaning?


Posted by Ian Williams at March 30, 2009 11:03 PM
Comments
Posted by: CET3 at March 31, 2009 4:45 AM

I don't think there are any perfect synonyms. There is always some different shade of tone or meaning. I refer to obnoxious edits that are a difference without a distinction as "changing 'glad' to 'happy.'" That comes pretty close in most contexts.

Posted by: Anne at March 31, 2009 5:10 AM

Aren't "big" and "large" pretty much the same?

Posted by: Anne at March 31, 2009 5:11 AM

PS. Similarly, "small" and "little."

Posted by: kent at March 31, 2009 5:31 AM

'cease' and 'desist'

There's a whole bunch of two word cliches in legal language like this: one word Latinate, one Germanic. They come to us from a time when the British Isles had speakers of both latinate and germanic tongues, and the convention was to use both words to make sure everyone understood. So by definition both 'cease' and 'desist' mean the same thing.

Posted by: Mark C. at March 31, 2009 6:20 AM

'awesome' and 'random' they have both been misused by so many for so long they are both essentially meaningless, I know I am being an old curmudgeon, but few things are truely awesome and truly random, but you would think everything are both if you listen to people talk so does that kind of count in a modestly funny way?

Posted by: Ian at March 31, 2009 7:14 AM

"Large" is bigger than "big", not to mention slightly more formal. I also think "little" is smaller than "small" but I could be outvoted.

To me, "glad" is more generally contented (and more also more formal) than "happy", which connotes more of a fleeting emotion. Again, fine to be outvoted!

"Cease" and "desist" are not adjectives, O brother mine.

Posted by: Emma's big sis at March 31, 2009 7:51 AM

Mike Krzyzewsk = obnoxious

Posted by: LFMD at March 31, 2009 8:09 AM

vapid and insipid

Posted by: Jody at March 31, 2009 8:09 AM

Emma's big sis = today's threadwinner

Sorry, not adjectives either...

Posted by: al at March 31, 2009 8:14 AM

Do you think rocks and stones are the same thing? I don't - but I've been told by they are. As adjectives, are they the same? Is a stoney creek the same as a rocky creek? I think not.

I believe we all have our own currency in terms of language and use of adjectives. My glad might be your happy, my large your huge. And perhaps, however minor our differences in the interpretation of each, there's always something lost in translation.

Posted by: Rebecca at March 31, 2009 8:57 AM

start

Posted by: Rebecca at March 31, 2009 9:02 AM

Oops - not an adjective. But you're looking for one word, right?

Posted by: once a heel at March 31, 2009 9:21 AM

spherical, orbicular

Posted by: Big Scott at March 31, 2009 9:41 AM

I'm kind of with Al on this one, especially the last part about each person having one's own currency of language. I like that phrase, though I tend to think about it in a slightly different way. Having some amount of training in biology , I tend to think about language in terms of neuroanatomical terms. By placing words on the page and having you read them I can stimulate those synapses in your frontal lobe that correspond to the words on the page, but I have no control over what downstream associations you may have in response to all of those synapses firing at the same time. There's going to be certain amount of commonality based on one's culture, education and standard usage, but the fine details are really up for grabs depending on the individual. I'm sure that this is a truly simplistic view of what actually goes on, but I think it works in rough terms. I foresee some rather dense reading on language and neuroanatomy in my future.

And, by the way, rocks and stones -- definitely not the same. Rocks have corners and sharp edges, while stones have more regular, smooth surfaces. At least they do in my little world.

Posted by: Jes at March 31, 2009 9:49 AM

In a similar vein: egg-shaped, ovoid

I seem to remember Nabokov talking about the density of meaning in English words and how it made translating his work especially challenging. The example he gave was "oaken", which is not quite the same as "made of oak".

Posted by: xuxE at March 31, 2009 10:34 AM

stupid and dumb

Posted by: Alan at March 31, 2009 10:59 AM

I would think there are really no synonyms. Examples from the above:

- "cease" and "desist" mean different things: ceasing is stopping while desisting is not starting.
- "spherical" is perfection in three dimensions while orbicular would include lumpiness. I don't think as sphere can have a mountainous protrusion.
- "stupid" is about intellectual capacity while "dumb" is the inability to articulate.

But, then again, it depends on your level of abstraction. If you do not drill down into etymology or accept common use there are certainly synonyms. I expect my nine year old to tell me that the management of the Yankees is "stupid" one day and "dumb" the next and I will praise him for his insight each time.

Posted by: Sarah at March 31, 2009 10:59 AM

wordy, verbose
freeze-dried, lyophilized (that's the dorky scientist in me)
smart, intelligent

Posted by: Anne at March 31, 2009 11:21 AM

I like Sarah's "wordy" and "verbose," above.

RE: Ian's reaction to big/large and little/small -- I find it wonderful that we all carry around in our heads these additional subtleties of meaning for particular words, perhaps influenced by overheard conversations when we were small, or things we read, or localized usage. And I kind of get the small/little distinction myself -- "little" has a more diminutive feel, plus it's fun and rhythmic to say and sing: "I'm a little white duck sittin' in the water." (*nostalgia for Burl Ives*)

Posted by: chm at March 31, 2009 12:01 PM

inadvertent and unintentional

Posted by: emma at March 31, 2009 12:22 PM

You can call me obnoxious any day of the week. Never, ever call me Krzyzewski.

Posted by: Ian at March 31, 2009 2:55 PM

"wordy" and "verbose" are pretty close - though, would you say that "wordy" is slightly more pejorative? "Wordy" implies too many words, and verbose implies a lot of words... but they differ only by a hair.

"inadvertent" and "unintentional" is pretty damned close too. I'm having trouble finding a difference - anybody else?

Oh, I think "intelligent" is slightly smarter than "smart".

The K word ought to be Krzyzewskiesque, n'est-ce pas?


Posted by: Neva at March 31, 2009 2:59 PM

Medicine is full of this kind of stuff. Lots of fancy sounding medical terms that are really just synonyms for regular every day words.
erythematous = red
edematous = swollen
Lots more where that came from..

Posted by: wyatt at March 31, 2009 3:26 PM

From igneous petrology:
anatexis = fusion = melting

Posted by: Alan at March 31, 2009 3:56 PM

Wouldn't it be properly Krzyzewskovi?

Posted by: janet at March 31, 2009 4:21 PM

"Life"
confusing......
unsure..
wonderful.....
inspiring....
wholesome..........
incredible...
warm....
cold...
complete....
complex...

........

right now.....etc

Posted by: xuxE at March 31, 2009 5:30 PM

i don't know, i think stupid ass and dumb ass are pretty much the same thing, unless you mean the pair of words in questio ncan't have any *other* meaning, they can *only* have the synonymous meaning.

in other words, spherical and orbicular *can* both have the same exact meaning of "round" in some contexts but ALSO could have different meanings in other contexts.

like let's say you're rambling along with some story and you're going: "the pitcher's hands gripped the familiar orbital projectile as he mentally calculated the distance from his target and assessed impact of the faint wind coming in at a 15 degree angle. as he shifted the spherical bullet in his hands, precisely positioning the seams along his index finger, he began to feel a dizzying yet pleasurable head rush, fueled in part by this morning's cocktail of steroids and methanphetamines.

seems to me in this case both words are just saying "round". but it might be different if you are describing the topigraphical landscape of jupiter vs. mars or something.

or as option B i give you:

shitty and sucky.

Posted by: David at March 31, 2009 5:35 PM

pert and perky

The weather was spring-like today.

Posted by: Tanya at March 31, 2009 6:06 PM

Yearly = annually

Had an editor once who could NOT resist changing or altering (ooh! Synonyms!) at least something in every doc that crossed his path. I submitted a one-pager marketing a corn herbicide, and that was his only edit.

Posted by: Caitlin at April 1, 2009 7:14 AM

I think wordy applies more to writing and verbose to speech. But maybe that's my idiosyncratic shade of meaning.

Yearly and annually seem indistinguishable to me.

Posted by: killian at April 1, 2009 7:36 AM

perky is younger than pert.

Posted by: Ian at April 1, 2009 11:58 AM

Maybe I should further restrict the definition, since "yearly" and "annually" both describe one thing - a year - that never changes, at least conceptually. Same goes for the "car" and "automobile" example.

"Pert" is more of a permanent description to me, whereas "perky" implies that the perky object is prone to change.

Posted by: once a heel at April 1, 2009 12:19 PM

sole, only, lone

Posted by: T.J. at April 2, 2009 4:56 PM

I'm clearly too late to the dance on this one, but:

idiopathic - unknown

Posted by: HG at April 20, 2009 2:44 PM

see Italian dictionary: CESSARE, DESISTERE are both Latin roots.

So the theory about juxtaposing Latin/Germanic synonyms is certainly not proven by this, typically American, legalese using superfluous repetition.

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